COVID-19 has caused incredible pain and struggle in the arts world.  Host Dave Shaff seeks to discover how we can move forward and create a better future for creators. How can we create art in isolation? How do we bring people together through social distance?

Audium Listens features Bay Area artists in conversation about how they have been affected by the crisis. Learn how they are responding, pivoting and growing amid the intense emotion of the times.

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#10 Knee-Deep – Pamela Z
For some people, life seemed to come to a standstill during COVID. Not multimedia artist Pamela Z, she’s “wading knee-deep in punishing deadlines.” Hear about Pamela’s impressive history with music and art, her adaptation to online performances, and her thoughts on the intensity of the past year. Find more of her work at and hear her new album here. View the episode’s transcript here.

#9 A Musical Adventure –
David Möschler

Many orchestras are being reborn post-COVID. David Möschler’s Awesome Orchestra was already breaking apart classical traditions before the pandemic- no auditions, free beer, & outdoor rehearsals to name a few. But now, with new revelations around equity and inclusion, even the most non-traditional of orchestras must contemplate change. View the episode’s transcript here.

#8 A New Day? – Mark Sabb
As we appear to be coming out of the worst days of the pandemic, it’s time to start asking the big questions. Mark Sabb helps us throw up a mirror to see who we are and how the Bay has changed for artists and arts institutions. Learn about Mark’s work as a digital artist, founder of Felt Zine, and digital content strategist for the Museum of the African Diaspora. Find more of Mark here, and check out this episode’s featured musicians Dev Moore & Jawn Diego. View the transcript here.

#7 Bridging Divides – Scott Shigeoka
We’ve all heard that there are two Americas now: Us & Them. Storyteller creative Scott Shigeoka is trying to change that. Hear their story of coming out as queer, writing for the Washington Post and organizing music festivals. All this informs their current work creating opportunities for dialogue with “the other side” of the political and social divide. Check out Scott’s work at And view the transcript here.

#6 The Climate and You: Mia Feuer
We reflect on the tumult of 2020 with sculptor and CCA professor Mia Feuer. Mia takes us deep into her research and art around climate change.  We discuss motherhood during COVID, careerism, and how to change with a changing planet. Find out more about Mia at This episode’s background music is by Nate TedescoSee the transcript here.

#5 Channeling Your Ancestors: Cairo McCockran
How do you master the art of the zoom gig? Musician and educator Cairo McCockran drops some insight; topics range from being a black musician in the age of BLM, an ambitious plan for a “Musician Corps,” and how to stay inspired during dark times. Connect and listen to more of Cairo on his instagram. See the transcript here.

#4 Creating Change: Jacintha Charles
Jacintha Charles shares her experiences in the Singaporean and American film industries. Learn how she supports other women in film and how COVID and BLM are shaping her craft. Find out more about her work at Also featuring the cinematic music of Holly Mead. See the transcript here.

#3 Musician’s Struggle: Jean Jeanie
The struggle is real; musicians are out of gigs, money and motivation. Jean Jeanie, leader of the band Future Twin, gives us insight on these issues from her experience as an artist and housing activist during this crisis. Find more  of Jean’s music at See the transcript here.

#2 Sound and Silence: Blanca Bercial
Can you hear me? Sound artist and academic Blanca Bercial shows us how listening to the sounds in-between sounds can help us reimagine our cities and our relationships to each other. Learn more about her work at See the transcript here.

#1 Looking Ahead: Stan Shaff
Audium co-founder and spatial sound pioneer Stan Shaff uses lessons from his past to contemplate a better future for the arts during the crisis. See the transcipt here.



Host, sound design, editing: Dave Shaff

Voice editor, music & sound design: Nate Tedesco

Story consultant: Emma Scully

Logo design: Michelle Anderson

Final Transcription: Odin Rosado


Ep 1:

Synthesizers: Stan Shaff

Trumpet: Dave Shaff

Ep. 2:

Field recordings of Mission district: Blanca Bercial

Bubbles: Courtesy of

Ep. 3:

All music tracks: used courtesy of Future Twin off the album Suffer No Fools

Grand piano: Ben Slater

Musician asking for tips: Aaron Leese

“Creating, production & publishing” sounds from

Ep. 4:

Cinematic music courtesy of The Gift film and Holly Mead

Punjabi Religious hymn, ‘spanner’ and zip sounds:

Thumb harp, film set, protest & riot sounds: Dave Shaff

Ep. 5:

All sampled beats courtesy of Cairo McCockran

Percussion instruments: Dave Shaff

Recorded drums solos: Cairo McCockran playing with Mean to Me


 Guitar background music: Nate Tedesco

bird, Palestinian protesters, styrofoam : Dave Shaff

glacier calving, cash register, bell ringing, baby noise:

xylophones, extraction machine, bells, police and construction sounds, lion roaring: Stan Shaff

arctic ice: Courtesy of Mia Feuer


All background music & sounds composed and recorded by

Dave Shaff except:

(opening and closing theme originally composed for Miikka Skaffari’s short plant film.)

Tapping sound: Ryan Elizabeth Reid 

Group singing “Didn’t He Ramble”: Percussion workshop led by Aaron Kierbel

Ep. 8:

Background music:

Dev Moore – Valley Prayer

Dev Moore – Stank Aquarium Date

Dev Moore – Aye Mama

ChrisHK – City Fair

Jawn Diego – Dreams

Dev Moore – Find A Way

Jawn Diego – Guap

Dev Moore – Oh Yeah

Sound Effects by Nate Tedesco

Ep: 9:

All background music courtesy of the Awesome Orchestra

Ep 10:

All background music courtesy of Pamela Z.